Joe Lawrence - Bonus Maverick Paradox Podcast

In October 2017 Joe Lawrence asked me to be a guest on his podcast Inspire Tomorrow. It's mission was to 'lead others today while inspiring the next generation', I loved the idea. Our interview was the 4th episode and sparked my desire to host my own podcast.

I will always be grateful for Joe inspiring me towards broadcasting. My podcast The Maverick Paradox Podcast was born during December 2017. Since then Joe has been a popular conversationalist at The Maverick Paradox, joining me on Episode 4 and Episode 36.

Joe has graciously allowed me to add our Inspire Tomorrow episode to The Maverick Paradox, thus benefiting both audiences. The interview has been reproduced exactly how it was originally broadcast with additional commentary.

This podcast makes up Episode 44 of The Maverick Paradox Podcast. Joe explores a quote from my book:

The Maverick Paradox: The Secret Power Behind Successful Leaders (Mavericks need challenge and influence like they need oxygen) and ponders the meaning of that sentiment.

This also includes:

  • the rationale for my book
  • mavericks are often hired to solve a problem and then they have their autonomy restricted once the original problem has been solved
  • the 4 different types of person and how mavericks think

The Facebook group that I speak of in this interview is The Maverick Paradox. Click here to find out more.

An interesting interview, time to listen up!

Joe Lawrence is an ex US Air Force Training Director and is currently a Data Migration Consultant. He is now leveraging 20 years of military leadership experience into the Project Management world.

His LinkedIn profile is here.

You can find out how to listen to Episode 44 on one of the popular podcast platforms here.

For those of you who are happy to listen through your browser … enjoy!

Previous conversations with Joe

On 1st January 2018 I spoke to Joe for the first time on The Maverick Paradox Podcast. Joe explains that leaders are teachers first. We discuss approaches on teaching leadership and how to climb the mountain top. You can listen to that episode here:



On 25 March 19 I aired her second conversation with Joe (episode 35). This time we spoke about how to gain trust and build confidence as a leader. We also explored what was the best way to build trust and pace teams quickly. You can listen to that episode here:


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